PPL Prime 2011 Team v1.1

[Ktywf]

[ReploidArmada]

Well, actually, that's the opposite of my problem. I'm finding myself useless against Waters once Thundurus is KO'd. Perhaps I should have been more specific but oh well.

[Ktywf]

[Kirogata]

Can INfernape get Wild Charge? I'd swap it out over U-Turn if he does.(what with yiou a;ready hitting at least neutral with most of hit attacks), and I think focous sash is a better bet on infernape...kinda....

What really suprises me is that the LO in on thunderous. He be your lead, so I'd put a focous sash on him. And the LO in the ape.

Also, try a Rhindo(sp?) berry on Swampert.

[Touko]

Now, the great thing about Black and White is that it gives you two awesome TM Grass moves, you just have to find Pokemon who can learn them. Energy Ball and Grass Knot are both pretty great, and can go on some random Pokemon (My Zoroark has Grass Knot and my Chandelure has Energy Ball). However, I double checked your current team and only Infernape can learn it.

What I am trying to say, is that you don't necessarily have to have a Grass Pokemon to get Grass coverage. As with many other things (read: Earthquake), you can get that one key move on to a random Pokemon that they don't expect all the time and is not likely to be affected by the type. (like a Gengar with Thunderbolt). So THAT is something you could look into!

[ReploidArmada]

@Ktywf: I considered Roserade and Ferrothorn (I had good luck with the former back in Pearl) but Swampert allows me to predict an Electric attack on either Thundurus or Vaporeon and switch in safely.

@Kirogata: Yeah, I agree that Thundurus needs a Focus Sash more than the Life Orb he had previously. I decided to give the orb back to Infernape because his attacks are a bit too varied in type for me to want to lock him in to one of them. Besides, Scizor already has a choice item anyway. My problem with the berry is that Swampert is 4x weak to Grass, so basically anything that will hit that weakness is going to KO him anyway, but I think it's worth testing.

@Touko: Aye, I know that well enough. Thundurus has Grass Knot as well, but as soon as he went away, I was left unable to break bulky Waters and Grounds which would usually wall the rest of my team with their passive recovery (Leftovers, Rain Dish, etc). I decided to replace Infernape's U-turn with Grass Knot.

[Kirogata]

x4 is one hit ko, with tanky l;ead swampert, x2 is not ohko. Hence the epicness of the Rhindo~

[Cocowoushi]

[ReploidArmada]

I've fallen out somewhat with the idea of having Infernape know Grass Knot, because generally everything it's worth using on is more easily taken out by another Pokemon or move (CC against bulky Rock-types, Thundurus against bulky Waters), and U-turn is simply too useful in my opinion.

Current build, now with nicknames:

Mitsunari (Thundurus) (M) @ Focus Sash
[spoileru80]Trait: Prankster
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Grass Knot
- Nasty Plot
- Taunt[/spoileru80]
Motonari (Swampert) (M) @ Rindo Berry
[spoileru80]Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 Atk / 128 Def / 128 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Curse
- Stealth Rock[/spoileru80]
Yukimura (Infernape) (M) @ Life Orb
[spoileru80]Trait: Blaze
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Flare Blitz
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge
- U-turn[/spoileru80]
Musashi (Scizor) (M) @ Choice Band
[spoileru80]Trait: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Pursuit
- Superpower
- U-turn[/spoileru80]
Masamune (Porygon2) @ Eviolite
[spoileru80]Trait: Trace
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Shadow Ball
- Recover
- Thunder Wave[/spoileru80]
Hideyoshi (Vaporeon) (M) @ Leftovers
[spoileru80]Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Scald
- Protect
- Wish
- Toxic[/spoileru80]
Guess the source of the nicknames, win absolutely nothing!