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A surprise trick for bug trainers?

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A surprise trick for bug trainers?

Postby CommodoreSkippy » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:42 am

So, I've been mulling ideas about black and white tricks and I realized something potentially pretty amazing.

Eviolite.

Great item for the playthrough, boosts a Pokemon's defense and sp. Def by 50% so long as that Pokemon is not fully evolved. Initially you might think, hey, okay, maybe makes some middle forms a bit viable. But what about poke who are already viable, but not fully evolved.

I immediately thought of Scyther.

For those who do not know, Scyther's stat total does not change at all when he evolves into Scizor, only his stat distribution does. But he still has the fairly impressive total of 500 in both forms.

Except Scyther isn't fully evolved. As fars as I know, he's a viable candidate for the Eviolite. Super Scyther, anyone?

Does this work? Are there other Pokemon out there who don't actually raise their stats when they evolve? What's the word?
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Re: A surprise trick for bug trainers?

Postby Aurethious » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:03 am

Yes, it works. I don't know about the stats question, but I know I've seen mentions of Chansey having higher defenses than Blissey with it and Munchlax being able to take hits like a Snorlax with it (really nice in Little Cup, I gather).
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Re: A surprise trick for bug trainers?

Postby Kopaka » Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:02 am

Dusclops O_O

I don't have B/W yet, but WANT O_O

(dusclops -> dusknoir gains some attack, but that's it)
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Re: A surprise trick for bug trainers?

Postby VersionZero » Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:18 pm

Porygon2 is definitely better than Porygon-Z in the defensive spectrum once you put Eviolite on it. You sacrifice sweeping capabilities for a great overall wall. With access to Recover and other support moves? Expect that Porygon2 to take hits like a champ.
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Re: A surprise trick for bug trainers?

Postby Kirogata » Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:36 pm

While evolite is Viable on Scyther, he is still outclassed by Scizor for on dominant reason: STAB Priority.

And beyond that, Scythers defensive prowess with evolite still isn't quite up to snuff because of the weakness. x4 Rock, x2 Elec/Fire, and those are just the common ones. :/

Chanc, Pory-2 and Dusclops are truly beasts with evolite however.
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Re: A surprise trick for bug trainers?

Postby Ktywf » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:23 am

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Re: A surprise trick for bug trainers?

Postby Kirogata » Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:48 pm

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Re: A surprise trick for bug trainers?

Postby Kai » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:31 pm

The trick is GETTING the DW ability pokemon. They have DW abilities for nearly every pokemon, but only some can be found on the DW last I checked.

that being said. oh god. shadow tag chandelure. oh god.



And on topic, Eviolite is a fantastic looking item. I've seen a bunch of things on it, and it all looks great. 50% boost? yus please
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Re: A surprise trick for bug trainers?

Postby Kirogata » Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:41 pm

Ummm....Most of the pokemon that have a DW power worth getting are available already.

Speed Boost Blaziken, Posion heal Glicsor, etc.. A lot more have been released that people think.
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Re: A surprise trick for bug trainers?

Postby Kai » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:32 pm

How do you get them? 0.o
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