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Same rule twice...

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Re: Same rule twice...

Postby Shade » Tue May 01, 2012 9:12 am

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E13+P13: Berri, the Dragon Ranger+Berri, the Traveling Ranger
E14+P14: Neuro of Aperture Labs+Co-cordinator
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Re: Same rule twice...

Postby Kai » Tue May 01, 2012 2:02 pm

I'm gonna poke my head in here, I was a major part of the rule making process, I myself, had to climb the tallest mountain in South America. I had a homeless man from scandinavia drink the milk of a coconut that originated from the oldest palm tree in Florida. (Shrain pulled the short straw on that getting that coconut, have him tell you about sometime) and after that, I was visited by Arceus' spirit messenger, George. Nice guy.

After these quests, we sat down, and brainstormed ideas that we thought should or should not be allowed, in fair interest to all. We decided that certain combos, such as drizzle+swift swim and Sand rush+sand stream should be banned, while their alternate type counterparts (chlorophyll, for example) were fine based on ease of use. There are a lot more possibilities to "abuse" those two than to abuse chlorophyll. Even smogon has drizzle/swim banned. We chose to just ban the combo instead of individual pokemon though, because we want to keep rules simpler than "these seemingly arbitrary (for someone not in the metagame) pokemon are banned!"

The limited and restricted list we tried to keep simple to explain as well, for similar reasons. We picked pokemon commonly banned, and then based on their "potential", narrowed it down to what we decided was easy to remember (you will notice that these lists are almost entirely "legendary" pokemon) While we do have a lot of pokemon not shared by the Official Pokemon rules, or Smogon, that's because through our playtesting we determined it wouldn't be...sporting, for lack of a better word.

There are some rules that not everyone agreed with, and some feelings were hurt, but this is what we decided after WAY too long. We may take into considerations for revision that anyone has, depending on how things go and if people REALLY don't like any of the current rules.

I hope this wall of text helped, please feel free to PM or just post somewhere if you have anymore questions.
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Re: Same rule twice...

Postby Fraxure » Tue May 01, 2012 4:32 pm

Thanks Shade and Kai, I guess I was just underthinking the matter. I didn't mean to insinuate that the PPL rules did not have sufficient preparation. And actually, the restricted list that players can only have one Pokemon from probably works very well in limiting the amount of overpowered legendaries seen.

One final question: Rule 14 deals with Dream World abilities, and while I think it's generally agreed that most DW abilities aren't broken, the one exception seems to be the aforementioned Speed Boost Blaziken, which is now restricted to Ubers on Smogon.([url=http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4201628#post4201628053]1[/url053], [url=http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4204559053]2[/url053]) Will a special case be made for Blaziken in PPL?
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Re: Same rule twice...

Postby Ktywf » Tue May 01, 2012 6:55 pm

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Re: Same rule twice...

Postby Cocowoushi » Wed May 02, 2012 5:25 am

The reason why I made my post so small was because it was half in jest. I do know and have seen the work done to try and make our rules as fair as possible.

It's just a personal gripe about Legendary use. (Abd i know it would never get passed.) It just feels to me, letting them be used is sometimes more trouble than it's worth. Getting beaten by one never feels great and I'd rather lose to pseudo legends.

But this is off topic, sorry!
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Re: Same rule twice...

Postby RocketGruntFro » Wed May 02, 2012 9:50 am

Nick Diamond (Fighting) East 2012
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Maxwell Graves (Ghost) East 2013
"Professor Birch" (Ghost) East 2014
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Re: Same rule twice...

Postby Fraxure » Wed May 02, 2012 12:23 pm

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Re: Same rule twice...

Postby Kai » Wed May 02, 2012 11:57 pm

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Re: Same rule twice...

Postby SandstormS » Thu May 03, 2012 5:03 am

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Re: Same rule twice...

Postby Prof. Pine » Fri May 04, 2012 11:39 am

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